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“Black Central Americans in the United States: Mestizaje and Anti-Black Racism” - Shared screen with speaker view
Eileen Galvez (she/ella)
29:10
Hello and welcome! Please enjoy the music and we will begin promptly at 5:05pm ET
Beka (she/ella)
29:42
Welcome everyone, we will be starting the event at 5:05!
Carolina Dávila (she/ella)
32:51
Yale’s land acknowledgement: https://secretary.yale.edu/services-resources/land-acknowledgment-statements
Carolina Dávila (she/ella)
33:41
https://native-land.ca/
Cindy Centeno
35:10
siiiii!!!
Sofia Lackiram (She/Her/Hers)
36:35
Celiaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa<3
Jasselene Paz (she/ella)
36:35
Yes Celia!!!
Beka (she/ella)
36:43
Woo Celia!
Ricardo Aguilar
36:44
Okayyyy Celia!!!!
Dennis Portillo
36:46
Yes Celia!!
Carolina Dávila (she/ella)
36:47
Celiaaaaa, we love yoooooouuuuuu!!!! <3
Amara Mgbeike
37:01
Yes, Celia! 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
Jasselene Paz (she/ella)
37:03
YES MA’AMMMMMM
Jasselene Paz (she/ella)
37:06
MHMMMMMMM
Jasselene Paz (she/ella)
37:15
We love you Celia <3
Carolina Dávila (she/ella)
37:37
Celia, young scholar, a dream queen! <3
Dennis Portillo
37:40
WOO
Carolina Dávila (she/ella)
38:38
You can also message Eileen Galvez, Beka Cabrera or myself (Carolina Davila) for questions/comments to share :)
Stephanie Huezo
39:48
Working on that first book Pablo, yea!
Sofia Lackiram (She/Her/Hers)
39:51
GAHHH I’M SO EXCITED!
Brenda Gutierrez
40:11
^^!!
Marina Henriquez
40:22
good job Celia!
Sofia Betancourt
42:51
thank you for that inclusion. gracias.
Jazmin Alfaro
50:06
Wow gracias Profesor Lopez - nunca lo pensé así - si lo entiendo!
Ruby Cheresnowsky
53:08
WOOWWW! YES
Marina Henriquez
53:54
exactly, el salvador, is thought as a non-blackness but it is not true, negates it. thank you for bringing that up.
Ayona Riley
54:16
Yessss!! An associate of mine tried to convince me that El Salvador “chased all of the Black people out” he couldn’t conceive of El Salvador being a place with people of African descent
Audrey Shipp
54:39
This erasure on the Pacific Coast of El Salvador contrasts with the large populations of Blacks on the Pacific Coast in Colombia
Jeanette (she/her) Gerrity Gomez
01:00:44
this is a such a good convo. thanks for this. so glad it’s been recorded as I have to leave early. gracias a todxs
Marina Henriquez
01:02:59
sorry I have to leave to another meeting but wanted to congratulate you for creating this scholarship and presentation. I hope it gets recorded so I can get educated. love you all and stay well and safe. Gracias Yale and Dean Galvez, Celia and Prof. Lopez Oro.
Eileen Galvez (she/ella)
01:03:28
Feel free to email us at lacasa@yale.edu if you would like a copy of the recording!
luna cienfuegos
01:04:08
thank you for letting us know that, i missed part of the beginning & would love the recording.
Eileen Galvez (she/ella)
01:04:30
Sure, we’d love to share to anyone that would like it
Audrey Shipp
01:05:00
Garifuna consciousness and Haitian consciousness and the obvious fight against enslavement. “Obvious” because the colonizers and enslavers could not hide the fact of historical liberation.
Audrey Shipp
01:05:42
*could not hide fact of the historical revolt
Alison Martinez
01:06:23
Telemundo is actually problematic
Christopher Flores
01:06:37
Univision also
Jazmin Alfaro
01:06:38
Telemundo is SO PROBLEMATIC!
Evelyn Zepeda
01:07:12
Univision, Telemundo and all Spanish Media is so colorist! they do the work of white supremacy throughout Latin America
Nirizy Mendez
01:07:53
Casa Yurumein events are awesome!
Jazmin Alfaro
01:08:21
TLN (TeleLatino Network) in Canada literally speak only English now and only show air very white/European people who represent the network.
Alison Martinez
01:08:42
Yes Guatemala have been apart of Miss Garifuna, Belize as well
Nirizy Mendez
01:08:48
There is Mr. Garifuna too
Audrey Shipp
01:08:49
And then Telemundo is owned by NBC 4 so there is the problematic imperialism of US media supporting colorism in the Latin America
Dash Harris Machado
01:09:30
Triunfo and Tela are the favorites!
Camille MARTINEZ
01:10:28
Thank you Paul for centering the transgenerational framework.
Ayona Riley
01:13:31
Wow!
Ayona Riley
01:13:34
That’s powerful!
Kahlil Greene
01:13:39
What experiences is she warning them about?
Amara Mgbeike
01:13:44
Wow
Dash Harris Machado
01:13:45
Love you picked this passage
Ruby Cheresnowsky
01:13:46
Just the power of this - blown away
Nirizy Mendez
01:14:18
Made me think about children who have no interest in their Garifuna heritage
Dash Harris Machado
01:14:26
bc are we really “choosing” or is it “inherent”? as we are all Black diasporically.
Brenda Gutierrez
01:14:49
Wow I've been following Ain't I Latina for a long time! So awesome to see it here
Dash Harris Machado
01:15:46
SAY THAT!
Alison Martinez
01:15:57
I love Janel, one of my mentors!
Brenda Gutierrez
01:17:15
Yes!!!! Love thiss
Sofia Lackiram (She/Her/Hers)
01:18:29
Just bought the book for my niece, love it!
Beka (she/ella)
01:18:38
Please feel free to ask questions here in the chat!
Ruby Cheresnowsky
01:18:51
Could we see the video?
Sofia Lackiram (She/Her/Hers)
01:18:56
AMAZING Presentation!
Sofia Betancourt
01:19:09
Brilliant! Thank you so much for this work!
Dash Harris Machado
01:19:30
What part does (Garifuna) language play in formation of identity among diasporic Garifunas?
Nirizy Mendez
01:19:36
omg that's my cousin
Eileen Galvez (she/ella)
01:19:47
^ <3
Eve Famutimi
01:20:42
Oh My Goodness!!! This is absolutely amazing! The dance!!!!!
Dash Harris Machado
01:22:01
This quote “so racially mixed they constitute something else” is….fascinating. On a few levels.
Rebecca Dirksen
01:23:24
Thank you very much!
Eve Famutimi
01:23:24
It certainly does! <3
Amara Mgbeike
01:23:33
Wowww loved that clip
Felene Cayetano
01:23:45
Did you find the total number of people who put Garifuna in that 2010 census?
Alba (they/she)
01:24:00
This experience has been validating!! Thanks yall <3
Lillian MacKnight
01:24:02
The anxiety of that box
Christopher Flores
01:24:20
salute !!!!
Nirizy Mendez
01:24:30
I feel like that a lot because I'm Half Garifuna but also Half Dominican so I am always conflicted
Kimi Picerno
01:25:11
So, does Garifuna hold african descent? If so, how do Grifunas take on that aspect of upholding that part of themselves?
Audrey Shipp
01:27:12
White supremacy and imperialism creates the census categories. Also, US imperialism doesn’t recognize indigenity because the US myth is that the land was almost empty and that Natives no longer exist.
Dash Harris Machado
01:29:07
SPEAK ON IT!
Kahlil Greene
01:30:14
Thank you for this answer, very nuanced and enlightening!
Amara Mgbeike
01:30:21
^!!
Maribel de Jesus
01:30:30
That happens in all cultures. "Ten cuidao' con quien te juntas" was the phrase I often heard in NYC in the 80's.
Eve Famutimi
01:30:31
Unfortunately, same conversations take place in African homes
Sofia Lackiram (She/Her/Hers)
01:30:56
Yes Celia, PREACH!
Dash Harris Machado
01:31:04
EYYYYY!!!
Emil' Keme
01:31:51
Thanks for a great event! Wonderful talk Dr. Lopez Oro!
Dash Harris Machado
01:33:28
Thank you Dr.!
Carolina Dávila (she/ella)
01:33:42
Spanish AND Portuguese
Waleska Santiago-Centeno
01:34:09
Wonderful Presentation, Thank you!
Dash Harris Machado
01:34:22
LOL
Alison Martinez
01:34:24
Higher education is already a misrepresented space
Dash Harris Machado
01:34:58
WE OUTCHEA!
Sofia Lackiram (She/Her/Hers)
01:35:32
But you’re putting us back on the map though!
Breena Nuñez
01:36:17
Yes, Nicole! <3
Felene Cayetano
01:36:51
Black Belizeans identify with Caribbean identity more than Latinx identity
Dash Harris Machado
01:37:06
This is intentional. Folks are willfully erasing.
Dash Harris Machado
01:37:16
I’m not buying it!
Ester Trujillo
01:37:23
wow!
Brilla Brown
01:37:26
wow
Alba (they/she)
01:37:51
I was told by a "respected" Afro Latinx prof that all Ecuadorians are White
Dash Harris Machado
01:38:08
Alba cancel that “professor"
Alba (they/she)
01:38:12
some folxs say some ignorant tish
Dash Harris Machado
01:38:35
YES
Dash Harris Machado
01:38:41
I live in Panama
Alba (they/she)
01:38:43
Ha Dash.... the amount of dumbshit I"ve heard by "skinfolxs" is astounding.
Dash Harris Machado
01:38:46
Never leaving
sue patricia haglund
01:38:54
panama! tambien soy de panama
Amara Mgbeike
01:38:59
This was such a great presentation, thank you!!!
Sofia Lackiram (She/Her/Hers)
01:39:21
^^^^^!!!!!!
Dash Harris Machado
01:39:32
HELLO!
Evelyn Alvarez
01:39:56
Alo, buenas!
Ambreen Hernandez
01:40:07
Love this discussion. TY!
Jorge Alcantar Heredia
01:40:35
Where will the recording be accessible thru?
Dash Harris Machado
01:40:44
Can we just take a moment to admire the afro-bun-glasses combo glory of Dr. Lopez Oro? Gotta go though. This was amazing! More of this! ABRAZOTE
juli medina
01:40:51
Respect!
Eileen Galvez (she/ella)
01:40:58
You can email us at lacasa@yale.edu for the recording :)
Vanessa Escobar
01:41:06
Where is the book available?
Jorge Alcantar Heredia
01:41:13
Wonderful. Mil gracias
Alba (they/she)
01:41:14
Def admire Dr. Lopez Oro's combo \m/
sue patricia haglund
01:41:15
great presentation thank you,
Oriel Siu
01:42:13
what is your thoughts about people using Garifunas, instead of Garinagu?
siria alvarez
01:42:19
the garifuna market 💛
siria alvarez
01:42:26
amazing press
siria alvarez
01:42:32
presentation
Ambreen Hernandez
01:42:37
Where can we find readings on the centralization of these CA narratives?
Ambreen Hernandez
01:43:41
^^ historical context
juli medina
01:44:11
yes!
Maribel de Jesus
01:44:15
Great conversation. Thank you!
siria alvarez
01:44:24
good point on Orinoco
Jazmin Alfaro
01:44:39
I have a question - I’m in Canada from El Salvador.. if I can’t get to the markets, what can I do locally here for other CA’s to open their eyes beyond nationalism?
Marilyn Alvarado
01:44:52
Suggestions on how we can continue to engage in conversations about how blackness is not a monolith?For example — folks like myself living in the U.S, being from El Salvador and Honduras, indiegenous and black but colorist is so prevalent in our communities that folks are quick to dismiss you as black or quick to dismiss you as “Latinx”
Oriel Siu
01:44:52
I am Chinese Central American, from Honduras, my Chinese fam co-existed with Garifuna communities of Nicaragua for decades before having to migrate north (California). Do you know of any work being done around Black and Other Marginalized communities in the Central American region in response to racist mestizaje?
Breena Nuñez
01:44:53
Is Garifuna history being taught in schools in Central America? I think my mother, back when she was in Guate, wasn’t exposed to much of their history or presence.
Maya Wasserman
01:44:56
Have you worked with black Central Americans in New York who aren’t Garifuna? If so, how are their experiences different (or not)?
Ambreen Hernandez
01:45:50
m,.op
Beka (she/ella)
01:46:52
paullopezoro@gmail.com
Nirizy Mendez
01:47:20
Unfortunately, I have to go. Thank you so much. I will be emailing la casa for the footage
Cindy Centeno 🇸🇻 (she/her/ella)
01:48:44
oof, so good! super interesting!
Sofia Lackiram (She/Her/Hers)
01:48:46
Ooooooofff you hit my soul with that!
Elizabeth Pring
01:48:47
bars
Cindy Centeno 🇸🇻 (she/her/ella)
01:48:50
thank you for sharing!!!
Alondra Vazquez Lopez
01:48:50
Thank you!
Evelyn Zepeda
01:48:54
thank you all and thank you Dr. Lopez Oro!
Eve Famutimi
01:48:59
Wow!!! interesting!!!!
Selvyn Yovany Martinez
01:49:00
Latinidad is just a term that the elites aboard used to categorized within a European context.
Marilyn Alvarado
01:49:00
Faaaacts! Thank you so much
Selvyn Yovany Martinez
01:49:14
abroad*
Nicole Ramsey
01:53:03
Excellent!
Diana-Sofia
01:53:23
Amazing! Thank you!
Breena Nuñez
01:53:24
*loud clapping*
Beka (she/ella)
01:53:25
Thank you, Celia and Dr. Lopez Oro! :)
Kahlil Greene
01:53:28
Thank you!
Brenda Gutierrez
01:53:31
An incredible presentation! Thank you so much!
Ambreen Hernandez
01:53:31
Great job team
Yulisa Cruz
01:53:32
Gracias. How can we access the recording?
Carolina Dávila (she/ella)
01:53:32
And thank you, Celia, for being a fantastic moderator! Woohoo!
Sofia Lackiram (She/Her/Hers)
01:53:33
absolutely AMAZING!
Karen Emilia Velasco
01:53:34
Yes! Thank you so much for your labor. Thank you, thank you.
Virginia Zecchini
01:53:35
Thank you so much this was an amazing presentation and discussion.
Brilla Brown
01:53:35
Gracias, Dr. Lopez Oro
Ambreen Hernandez
01:53:36
Incredible
Breena Nuñez
01:53:36
This was an amazing talk! Thank yooouu!
Sofia Lackiram (She/Her/Hers)
01:53:39
YESSSS CELIA!
juli medina
01:53:40
and thank both
Alondra Vazquez Lopez
01:53:41
Gracias!!!
Martha Franco
01:53:42
Thank you!!
Brenda Gutierrez
01:53:42
Yes Celia!!!
Brilla Brown
01:53:43
Gracias, Celia!
Ambreen Hernandez
01:53:44
Gracias!
Lillian MacKnight
01:53:44
Thank you!
Diana Gamez
01:53:44
Thank y’all!
Eve Famutimi
01:53:45
This was so great!!! Thank you all!!!
Ester Trujillo
01:53:46
Thank you!
Ruby Cheresnowsky
01:53:48
Thank you Dr. Lopez Org and Celia!!! This was PHENOMENAL
Jorge Anaya
01:53:49
thank you!!!
Esther Garcia (they/them)
01:53:51
thank you so much!
sue patricia haglund
01:53:52
thank you!
Ruben Diaz Vasquez (he/him)
01:53:53
Thank you for this great event!
Carolina Dávila (she/ella)
01:53:59
lacasa@yale.edu
Esther Garcia (they/them)
01:54:00
This was incredible!
Alba (they/she)
01:54:00
Yupaychani <3
Norma Urrutia (she/her)
01:54:01
Thank you much to everyone who put this together and to Celia and Dr. Lopez Oro!!!!!<3
Katie R (They/Them)
01:54:04
Thank you Celia and Dr. Lopez Oro for your time
Nicky Montalvo Romero
01:54:13
mil gracias!
Cindy Centeno 🇸🇻 (she/her/ella)
01:54:18
Can the email be put in the chat? Gracias!!!
Joseline G. (She/Her/Ella)
01:54:20
thank y'all so much!!!
Rosalie Reyes
01:54:23
Thank you!!!!!
Cindy Centeno 🇸🇻 (she/her/ella)
01:54:25
oh wait, I see it!
Ingrid Colón (ella, she, her)
01:54:27
MIL GRACIAS!!!!
Cindy Centeno 🇸🇻 (she/her/ella)
01:54:27
Never mind :)
Edgar Payano
01:54:31
Can the email be put in the chat?
Felene Cayetano
01:54:33
Seremein!
Carolina Dávila (she/ella)
01:54:37
Email lacasa@yale.edu for the recording
Beka (she/ella)
01:54:38
Woo!!!
Carolina Dávila (she/ella)
01:54:41
lacasa@yale.edu
Cindy Centeno 🇸🇻 (she/her/ella)
01:54:43
Gracias!!!
Carolina Dávila (she/ella)
01:54:55
Yes, Beka!!!!!!! Woohoo!
Jorge Alcantar Heredia
01:54:55
Mil gracias
Farryn Slaton-Barkley
01:55:00
Gracias!!!
Carolina Dávila (she/ella)
01:55:01
"Unpacking Latinidad" Student Spaces for Community Conversations - Registration link for next week's conversations, open to all Yale undergrad and G&P students. Form closes this Friday at 9am ET: http://cglink.me/s36368
Paul Joseph Lopez Oro
01:55:03
Thank you everyone!
Beka (she/ella)
01:55:05
<3
Kiara Aileen Machado
01:55:13
thank youuu!!!
Shelsey Vazquez
01:55:15
thank you so much
Marilyn Alvarado
01:55:25
Muchas gracias por todo <3 !!
Cindy Centeno 🇸🇻 (she/her/ella)
01:55:42
yesss! looking forward to this!!
Brenda Gutierrez
01:56:03
Thank you!!
Evelyn Nunez
01:56:06
Thank you so much!!!